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"I should never have said this"
— Peter Wingfield at Anglicon, 18 April 1997

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Saturday, April 19, 1997
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Transcribed from audio tape with most of Peter's "ums," "I means," "kindas" and "y'knows" taken out. :-) Audience questions paraphrased for brevity.

Peter's easily amused

Q: How did you get the role of Methos? (photo by Dianne Smith)

Peter: How did I originally get this? I auditioned for it. I got a phone call from my agent. It's how these things tend to start off. You're sitting around, nothing particular on your mind, and the phone rings.

I think the original deal was, was I interested in spending four days filming in Paris? Yeah! I was interested, certainly. I knew nothing at all about the show at that stage. I had seen... no, that's a lie. I hadn't even seen the first movie then. I had heard of the movies. So I had a vague idea of the existence of Highlander, but I didn't know what it entailed at all.

And they didn't send me a whole script. They sent me a couple of pages to look at. One of which —

[sees Marcus Testory enter the room] Good God! Ladies and gentlemen, Marcus Testory! We now have half of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Hey, we're putting the band back together! This is a very big surprise for me, Marcus being in town. Marcus lives in Austria. That's in Europe, okay?

When I arrived yesterday, somebody said, "Marcus is in the bar."

"Marcus who?"

"Marcus Testory."

"Nah nah, you got the wrong guy here."

But "in the bar," yeah, that should have given it away, really. [giggles]

Where was I? Oh yeah, I was going to Paris. They sent me these couple of pages from the script. One was a big long conversation with MacLeod that we eventually filmed walking by the — it was the canal actually, it wasn't the Seine — where I was talking about being on the stage with Caesar and also with the Rolling Stones. And I was thinking, "What is this show about?!" And then there was the big scene under the bridge where I offer him my head. I say, "Chop my head off." So that was my —

[Marcus laughs] Hey! Is this some kind of double entendre? Offering him my head? Stop it! If you're not going to behave, you can go home.

Look at it. [gestures to the tattoo on Marcus' head] This is what I call commitment to a role. Just for the show, he had that done. [giggle] So yeah, I did an audition and I got the job. That's the story. [giggle]

What are your favorite ad-libs that you've done on the show? Anything we can put on a stamp?

[laughs] I think you do enough of that without my help!

I think my favorite ad-lib, well, episode really, was "Till Death," where very little of that was in the script — anywhere. That whole section where I said to him that I would do this for him if he gives me his boat. And there's the scene where [I said], "Okay, right. Gimme the boat then." That was a very short scene but it just went on and on and on. And in the end they've cut it down a lot from what we filmed. All that stuff of taking his chair and then going and kicking things off the desk, and then hucking stuff around the place — all of that was ad-libbed. That whole episode was... [giggle] Who wrote that script? [giggle] They didn't give us a writing credit on it, and I think they should.

Are we going to learn more about Methos' past?

For the future, I don't know, but there is definitely one in season five, where there is another Methos flashback. Yep, yeah. And it's quite different from the last one. [laughs] It's an episode called "The Modern Prometheus," which Adrian directed again. And, uh... [laughs] Somebody over there said [with sexy voice], "He likes you!"

Actually, Adrian's directed four episodes, and I've been in three of them, so I don't know if he gets casting approval... "The Modern Prometheus" episode, the flashback stuff is very lyrical, and the camera is also [doing] very flowing movements and [the look is] sumptuous. The modern stuff is shot much more like a rock video, very kinda jarring. I think it's a good episode. But he shot a lot of —

Marcus: Good music.

— a lot of, oh yeah! [laughs] I'll pass you over to Marcus in a moment to talk about the music in that episode. Adrian shot a lot of stuff for that episode [after] which the producers said, "You're not going to be able to show this on primetime TV. It's just too explicit. [laughs] Yeah. And Marcus' band wrote the music to it. [to Marcus] Say a bit about the music and what's —

Marcus: No.

— what you've done in that. No? There's a lot of stuff in the contemporary setting. [It] is about a rock star, and Marcus' band, M.E.L.T., [laughs] have been cutting together the music for that. Which is why he's in town. I don't know why he's in this town but... He's in this town for a free lunch!

I heard rumors thatwe'll hear your band play at the dance tonight.

Marcus: Well, I do have the promotional rough mix with me.

[laughs] "Rough mix" is the only way it comes with Marcus.

Marcus: [laughs] The actual CD is to be released mid-May in Europe. I don't think you guys will have the chance to hear it.

There is talk of making a compilation of music from the show, developing a CD from that.

Marcus: No comment.

Maybe in the future. Maybe soon in the future.

What do you think of the way the writers chose to resolve the relationship between Methos and MacLeod after "Revelation"?

The way it wrapped up in the end of "Revelation" is really good 'cause all that stuff is still there. It's not something you can easily, just kind of talk it through with your therapist and [say] "That's okay. We move on now." That stuff has changed their relationship forever. And it's not clear whether they can ever get back to the ease and security with each other again.

I don't think there's anything in the rest of the season that is specific about that. It's all still very much up in the air. To me — you'd have to ask Adrian about this — but I would think that it's going to be very difficult for MacLeod to fully trust Methos again. He's always going to have this thing of maybe there's more stuff to appear. I don't know that he's actually physically threatened by that, but there's going to be an edge to the relationship. There has to be, yeah. That's gonna be there.

I want you to know that we worked out this question last night, so it's a group effort.

Okay. [giggle] Be afraid. Be very afraid. This is bad. [giggle]

If you had to do a graphic love scene, what restrictions would you place on it?

[laughs] It would have to be uh, kind of crucial to the story.

I don't know. I don't have strong feelings about that. If a scene within a film script is right, then I don't look and think, okay, well, I wouldn't want, you know, I wouldn't want my bum to be seen. Yeah. I — no, I don't have... [to himself] What restrictions would I put on? I'd want as few people as possible on the set when it was being filmed.

In Medics, I did a bed scene in the final episode of the first season of that. And you wouldn't believe how many people suddenly were really busy on set. All the electric guys and the props guys, they're all suddenly really quiet and busying themselves.

I discovered after we'd filmed this... It was myself and a woman. I guess she was about 15, 20 years older than me. We're doing this scene. And it was supposed to be night, but we're filming it during the day, so they put blacks on the walls — uh, on the windows — to cut out the sunlight. We were filming in someone's house. We were up on the first floor. [U.K. has the ground floor then the first floor, which is actualy the second floor in North America.] I discovered afterwards that a bunch of the grips had climbed up the scaffolding and were between the windows and the blackout curtains, watching the scene.

So [smiles] that kind of stuff doesn't help the scene generally, if you know it's going on. That's about it though, really. If the scene is right, and I understand what's going on in the scene, what I'm supposed to be playing, as it were, then that's okay. [giggle]

How much medical training did you have?

Right. I spent five and a half years in medical school. Yeah. It's a six-year training and I actually left four weeks before my final exams. [laughs] Oh boy, the family were so proud of me! Geez. So yeah, I don't know what the training is like in the States.

I trained six years past medical school.

Plus qualification?

Four years of college, four years of medical school, and my specialty takes six years after that.

Right. Your specialty is what?

Oncology. [Cancer.]

Right, yeah. It's a serious business. As a student, it wasn't that difficult to just bumble along with it and never really commit. And it got towards the end of training and I — I feel that medicine, it should be a complete commitment. It becomes your life, and I wasn't able to give it that much [of] myself, which is why in the end that I left. I didn't feel that I had — I mean, I'm very kind of religious about these things, ridiculously obsessive. I feel the same way about acting — it's either a total commitment or it's really not worth doing.

I got to the end of my medical training and I hadn't at any point fully committed to it. And it seemed wrong of me to try and con my way through the exams and then be a doctor — and then go off and act. So, yeah, I did quite a lot of the training, but I didn't do the exams at the end. I didn't qualify.

What roles would you really like to play? What would you like Methos to do?

[laughs] More bed scenes.

The direction I want to go varies. It really depends on what I've last done. The thing that I tend to do whenever I can is seek out jobs that are completely different from what I last did. That's the great thing about playing Methos — is that within one role you get to do that. I've said this before, but when the script for "Horseman" turned up, it was just fantastic because it was so unlike anything that I've been asked to do before. And it was so demanding.

That's what I tend to look for. If I've been playing good guys for a long time then it's nice to play a bad guy. But if I've been playing bad guys for a long time then it's nice to do something that's kind of gentle and more sensitive. I did a documentary drama on the Welsh poet called Alun Lewis a couple years ago, and I was playing someone who was very very sensitive and gentle, and that was completely unlike anything I'd done for a long time. But then, having done that, I then wanted to do something tougher.

I don't have great career plans. I try and take things as they're offered and turn them down if they're not what I want to do.

How bizarre is it do to a quickening?

I'm not going down that alley. [laughs] Yeah, it's weird. It's big-time weird. I'm trying to think how many quickenings I've had on screen. The one in "Chivalry" is actually — it's completely accidental that that was there. They weren't going to film it. It was just that I, in the back of shot, just kind of went, "Ah!" [throws head back] I was mucking about, but it's in the show anyway.

The one at the end of "Revelation," we blue screened it. I don't know how much you know about the technical stuff of — everyone's nodding. Everyone knows what blue screen is. Right. That is king-size weird because you're standing in the middle of an aircraft hanger with a big blue sheet behind you and wind machines blowing at you and lightning flickering off. But basically you're just standing in the middle of nowhere faking an orgasm. It's like —

I really like the sound effects.

Yeah. The sound effects —

Your sound effects.

After you finish filming these things, you then go into the ADR [automatic dialogue replacement] studio and you just do the vocal bit. That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen, was Stan Kirsch doing his ADR for his quickening in, uh, was that "Messenger"? Yeah? [laughs] Yeah. They did actually do an edit of Stan's quickening there, but instead of the background that they have in the show, they put waves so it looked like he's surfing. [giggle] It was so Beach Boys, it was beautiful! [laughs]

Yeah, it's very very weird. The thing that I didn't expect because I hadn't had a lot of practice at these things is how physically tiring it is. If you watch Adrian when he does his quickenings, he actually doesn't tense up very much. He's quite relaxed. I'm holding this great big sword and I'm all tense. [mimes holding sword] My arm for about three days was just cramp. Not a mistake I'll make again.

Is there ever a point when you're acting that you're not thinking about acting, that you become the character? The car scene in "Comes a Horseman," for example?

Yeah, that tends to be afterwards that you're aware of that. But sometimes during scenes, you just kind of get wrapped up in it and stuff is going on that you're not consciously aware of. And you see the rushes, or you see it cut together afterwards, and you think, "Wow, did I do that? I wonder why I did that?" Just little details or intonations or facial expressions or stuff. That's when it works best, is when you don't plan stuff. It's very hard when you got a big scene like that. You do look at it and think, "Oh, it would be great if I burst into tears at that point." It works best when you do stuff that you weren't expecting.

The part where you laughed in Duncan's face, is that something you did consciously?

No, I didn't plan on that at all. That was because of something Adrian did that I didn't expect him to do.

We did that scene about four, five times, maybe half a dozen, and each time it wasn't quite like the previous times. It's a very tough job for the camera team and the sound team to pick it up because they don't know where we're going next. And it's a nightmare job for the editors to then piece it together into one scene, because it isn't. Each time we did it, there was a truth about it. But it's very hard to take a bit of one and stick it to a bit of another.

Now that laugh, [giggle] what was I thinking?! But yeah, it's right. It's horrible, but it's kind of right.

How do you handle scenes where you're not happy with your work?

I don't know. Most of the stuff from my, certainly my early work, I just can't watch. I really can't. I try to be objective about stuff. And it's very hard initially.

When you do a show, the first time you see it, it's just full of "Oh my God, my hair looks ridiculous!" You get so used to — you look in the mirror and if your hair looks crazy then you just kind of move it. But you're looking at yourself [on screen] and you can't do anything about it. So there's a lot of that the first time you see anything. But after five or six months, you can look at it and be quite objective.

The good thing about doing film work is you can actually learn from it. You can learn when you tried to do something and it just didn't work. But the stuff that I did in my early — I can't watch Soldier Soldier and Medics these days. There were moments in it that I can say, "Yeah, I like that." But whole episodes, no, I'm floundering around too much. I'm learning about being in front of the camera.

I'm not trying to be overly modest about this, I'm trying to be practical. I'm rarely happy with a whole episode. There are always bits, moments, lines, pieces here and there, that I just think, "Nah, that didn't work. I can see you trying to make that happen but it wasn't really happening."

Um, how do you deal with it? You have to be tough with yourself, I think. It's a practical business, it's about trying to learn from it. So you watch it and watch it and watch it till you're not emotionally involved anymore. And then you can learn, you can take something from it.

Who would you like to act with? Who are your idols?

That's a good question. [to Marcus] Why're you kicking me? Oh yeah! Marcus Testory! I'd love to do a film with Marcus! [laughs]

That's a very good question. Idols from the past... Richard Burton, I think. There's a huge spectrum of work that he did where a couple of his films are just the most wonderful work. And then there's a whole bundle of stuff that was just kind of money work. But I would have loved to have worked with him. I've seen footage of his Hamlet on Broadway, just the "to be or not to be" speech. He's an extraordinary actor, incredibly passionate, but also a searing intelligence to him and a mind like a clamp. I think he would have been amazing to work with.

I'm trying to think of... comtemporary... I love Al Pacino. I think he's just fantastic! A lot of actors that I've kind of followed, watched all their films and so... De Niro, I used to be incredibly impressed by, but he's kind of got trapped in a repeating of his old roles, whereas Pacino doesn't seem to have fallen in that same way. And Pacino's funny. He makes me laugh. Glengary Glenross, I think, is just so... That's an incredible film because there's like 20 minutes, 25 minutes of wonderful actors being brilliant, and then it just cuts to a really close shot of Pacino talking to Jonathan Pryce [and] you just go, "Yeah, he's the best." But I don't know, I think he might be really tough to work with because he's quite closed off. I don't know... women... women... who would I like to...? [giggle]

How do you play someone thousands of years old?

I think Marcus can take that one.

Marcus: No idea. [laughs] Just try to imagine. Just to imagine how it could be, you know what I mean? Observe.

For me, it's kind of easy because I've been playing Methos for a long time. And actually, for me it was easier to go back 3000 years when he wasn't quite so old. Because, yeah. Hey! Piece of cake, you know? I was a baby!

In ways, the thing that you go for is trying to imagine that period rather than that person. It's going back to what's important at the time, and how different from now is that period gonna be. And I specifically, because it was Methos' first real flashback, I wanted to technically, physically, make things different. I wanted him to sound different and physically be a different shape. I thought that back in those times he would just be bigger physically because he'd just be more active. He's been in a library for the last 20-odd years. Back in those days he was riding a horse and, you know, going out chasing deer with a stick. So I tried to go for physical stuff to make a contrast, to consciously make a contrast.

In stage combat who are your favorite choreographers and who trained you?

I was trained by a guy called John [Waller?] who now runs the armory department at Leeds castle, I think, in England. He's great. He's this little ginger guy who's built like a brick outhouse. And he does all sorts of combat, but his main thing is jousting. He runs the British Joust Festival or whatever. And he's a very funny guy because he's like this little ancient Celtic warrior.

But I have to say, my favorite fight choreographer is F. Braun McAsh, who does Highlander. He's fantastically good, because his knowledge of different weapons throughout history. He choreographs fights not just according to the script, the story and exactly what's going on in the relationships between the people who're fighting, but also in terms of how different weapons would be used, which changes the moves that you do. Rather than just sitting down and thinking, "Okay, we'll do a blow to the head and a blow to the hip," he's always thinking about how a weapon actually worked. I think he's terrific. So he would certainly be my fave. He's a very frightening guy himself.

What do you do in your spare time?

Okay, I'll tell you what Marcus does and he can tell you what I do. [laughs] Marcus goes out clubbing.

When we're filming "Revelation" in Bordeaux, [laughs] the Four Horseman would go out as a gang, you know — sink a few beers, bonding, all that stuff. And Richard Ridings, who's the big guy [Silas], he's pretty tough. He's got some stamina. Me and Valentine [Kronos], we hold our end up. We do our best. We'd go out till like two, three in the morning and then we'd — we'd have drunk a few beers by then — we'd head home.

Marcus would go out to another club.

We'd sleep for four or five hours. We'd get up — eight o'clock — try and grab some breakfast before going out to film.

Marcus would be arriving back to the hotel. He'd grab a cup of coffee and we'd be straight out to film. He doesn't sleep. That's all. I mean, literally.

Marcus: Music business training.

Ah, music business... My spare time. What do I do in my spare time? I run marathons. [giggle]

What's it like working with Adrian as a director? Is it different that working with him as an actor?

Yeah, it is. I think Adrian is a terrifically good director, and I think that a lot of that is because he has an actor's sensibility about how things fit together. A lot of times when you're filming a show, it's always under massive pressure. There's not enough time to do as much as you want. And a lot of directors, what they're thinking of all the time is the picture and paintings. And they want the actors to be in a particular place and that's it.

Adrian is always from the other point of view. It's always about "Okay, these people are there. What are they doing? What might they be doing? What might be going on?" So the actors come first. We rehearse it. We try and get a shape to it, something that everyone's comfortable with, and then he brings in the camera team and the lighting to film what's actually happening. And that's, from an actor's point of view, that's fantastic.

I think he's got a terrific eye as well. As I said, he's directed four episodes and three of which I've been in. And the three of them are very very different. Particularly "The Modern Prometheus," there is a different feel to that episode because of the subject matter. He's taken the script and thought "How can I reflect that story in the camera moves? Should I make the camera still? Should I make it flow?" I'm enormously impressed with him as a director.

I think it also frees him in his acting because his mind is elsewhere. He's actually concentrating on the business side, getting everything — the camera team, the lighting, everything else — that's all in his mind. He's then less worried about his acting, and consequently more relaxed and free-er, and more interesting stuff often comes out of that.

How do you feel about other people's opinions of your work. For example, if someone tells you they loved you in something and you're thinking "I sucked. I hated that."

[giggle] Yeah, you've been there, huh? There are a couple of people in the world whose opinions on my work I really respect, and I think that's the only kind of rational way you can hold it together. Everybody has an opinion. I have an opinion on Al Pacino's work. Why should he care? But everyone does have an opinion. That's absolutely their right, but you can't give too much weight to everybody's view because you don't know what else they feel about the world. There are a couple of people who I do look to for comments, and they're the people that are closest to me.

How do you handle being recognized in public?

It varies. At the moment I don't get mobbed when I go out in the street. And that's good. That's real good news. Back in England, I haven't been on screen very much for the last couple years. Highlander is not a big show in England. So it's much less in England that it was...

When I first became a [professional] actor — I suppose I'd been an actor about a year — I did a series of commercials for computer games where for about 18 months every time I went out through the door, everybody that I walked past recognized me — and [they were] not always sure why they recognized me. Advertising, that subliminal thing — you'd just get all these people looking at you and you see they're going, "I know you from somewhere but I don't know..."

That's really tough 'cause some days you get up and you just don't feel good about yourself. If you've got that kind of pressure, you just don't wanna go out of the house. Some days, it's great because you're feeling good, the sun's shining, and it's a very happy thing — people saying hello to you, people, you know, being nice.

I cannot imagine what it must be like to be like Jack Nicholson or people that everyone on earth pretty much knows. They can't even go to a different country and not be recognized. I think that must be very tough, and I don't envy it. I don't seek it. At the moment, things are great because a few people recognize me but they tend to be people that care a lot about the work that I'm doing.

Who's the biggest practical joker on the set?

Oh God, Adrian is the biggest practical joker, without a doubt.

The last episode we filmed in Canada, Stan was trying very hard to get Adrian back and Adrian was... he kept getting these messages coming through from someone called Deborah, I think, saying, "Last night was great, and I'm really looking forward to..." But these were always passed to Adrian via one of the production team.

It started off, it was just "Oh, I don't know what that's about, forget it" but they keep coming through the day until he was starting to get really mad about it. It was really starting to bug him. And in the end, we tried to get him to believe that this Deborah person was waiting in his trailer. Stan had got hold of one of the dummies from the wardrobe department and dressed it up in French knickers and a bra. And they were gonna try and take photographs of Adrian as he walked into the trailer and found this woman there. But they got the producer, Ken Gord, to break this news to him. Ken's a terrible liar. So Adrian knew at that stage something was up. But he's certainly the biggest practical joker.

Do you joust?

I only just learned to ride, come on!

Marcus, can you tell us about your band? (photo by Dianne Smith)

Marcus M.E.L.Ts us with his stare

Marcus: The band I'm with is called M.E.L.T. That stands for Mother Earth Love Truth. That is like, uh... well, call it grunge if you like, I don't know. What do you want to know especially about it? This is my life; I'm a musician, first of all. I'm touring Europe. I just finished an album that will be released in the middle of May that is called M.E.L.T. that will feature three songs that used to be on a known TV show. You know, that's about it. And there are a couple of copies somewhere over there? Yeah, at the autograph session.

So they might get played behind your back.

Did you have special camera training after drama school or did you learn on your own?

My drama training didn't involve any camera work at all really. We nominally had a session down at a small TV studio where we could go and kind of work with the camera, but the camera's being operated by other students. It bore no relation at all to real work.

No, you learn by getting a job and doing your best and then looking at it and seeing what mistakes you're making. Which is a tough way to learn because if you're really bad you don't get a second job: "No, no, but I know how to do it now!" "It's too late." You learn by watching.

I learned by watching films, by watching people being good at it and trying to read about how they view work. And there, really, it's a lot of making it up as you go along. Someone asked yesterday about how I approach a role and, you know, I don't have a method, a technique. I just try and think what it's like to be that person and then to try and be that person while the camera's rolling, and try not to act.

When I did National Youth Theatre, back in Wales, that was the thing that the director of National Youth Theatre always used to — he hated people acting. And I think that's really the advice that I've tried to hang on to.

Did Methos start the Watchers?

It does have a nice kind of symmetry to it, doesn't it? I don't think that at any point we've ruled it out. We certainly haven't specified that yes, Methos did that. It seems kind of neat, doesn't it? I think it's very possible.

Marcus, how did you get the role as a Horseman?

Good question.

Marcus: Well... well... Let's say there's a friend of mine drawing storyboard [for Highlander]. He wrote the script [on storyboard]. Rang me up: "There's a guy in the script is just like you!"

And I was like, "Uh, nice?"

"No."

So he told me to "get on a horse, make a photograph, send them to me [and] I'll show them to the director and we'll see what happens."

And, well, it happened. So I had this little casting video done. Ken Gord saw it. Ken Gord said, "Yep, that's the guy." Oops, Bordeaux, here we go. And then I was there, and I was just like, "Eh? What is this all about?"

Marcus didn't have any kind of publicity photos so [giggle] he goes off and gets a horse and sits on the back of it. Yeah! This is the character! They're not going to be that useful for Shakespeare but... [laughs] Oh, I don't know, Macbeth.

Marcus: [laughs] No.

Highlander has a reputation for being a really happy set and crew, especially with the rotating sidekick of the week —

[grins] You mean Adrian? You can tell him I said that. [laughs]

Is it true? And do you have any fun stories to share?

Is it true? Yeah, absolutely. I don't know why it's turned out that way. I guess people that are no fun don't get asked back. But, yeah, you can't fake that stuff. People either get on well or they don't. And I think it's kind of from the people at the top. The atmosphere is defined by the people at the top. Panzer loves the show. Ken Gord loves the show. Adrian loves the show. People are happy in their work. It's been going a long time now so people that didn't quite fit in have been wheedled out [sic — he means "weeded out"]. People that did fit in have been added on.

I don't know... fun stories... just going in to work is a fun story. This is the toughest job in the world — I get to work in Paris and Vancouver playing a man who's 5000 years old. It's a great gig.

Marcus, what label is the CD on, and did you play any music with Jim Byrnes?

Marcus: No music with Jim Byrnes. It's kind of a different style. The label's called Whampire Records. That is a small German independent label. We are distributed by different major distributors all over the world. I don't know exactly but publicity... join the Internet. Find Whampire Records.

Is that "Whampire" with a W or a V?

Marcus: W - H - WHAM-pire.

WHAM-pire.

Marcus: Whampire.

How did you get into Duncan's apartment and sprawl yourself on his bed in "Messenger"? Did you use a key or did you break in?

What are you implying? I have my own key! Think I've lived 5000 years without learning how to pick locks?

When we were doing that episode, I thought, "People are gonna talk. It's a terrible idea!" But then, you look at the simultaneous quickening at the end of "Revelation," so [giggle] I think being on his bed is no big deal.

Is Methos a good guy or a bad guy? [gives examples from several episodes of Methos being good and bad]

Man, you're so judgmental! [giggle] I think you've very eloquently summed up why he's a terrific character. I can't tell you. It's too complicated. That's why he's great to play. That's why I suspect he's great to watch because you don't know where he's coming from. So far as I know, reading all the scripts, the ideas that are coming up, I still don't know.

I think it's entirely possible, from all the words that I've read, that this could all be the master plan of a vicious bastard. But the opposite is also true, and that's why it works.

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